Dieter Rams is done giving interviews, and Gary Hustwit can only poke at his tempeh hash with a laugh here and a sigh there, hoping he did the legend justice.
I sit with Hustwit in a chilly Chicago diner before screening the film later that night at its Midwestern premiere. Hustwit cannot know this documentary represents the last time Rams will speak to the press, of course, but Rams has certainly left him with that impression.
"He feels that's the last interview he has to do. Seriously, he's not doing any others," says Hustwit. "I think he's tired of talking and saying the same thing. He wants his books and this film going out and doing the talking."